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Drones, Loss, and the Dance of Power

Christi Chanelle & Phoebe James Season 2 Episode 4

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Navigating the holiday season can be challenging, especially when it's shadowed by personal loss. This week, we're touched by Phoebe's heartfelt story of trying to find joy amidst the pain of losing her mother. With her son’s excitement over holiday decorations serving as a gentle nudge towards the festive spirit, Phoebe’s journey offers a poignant reminder of how love and patience can guide us through grief's unexpected waves. Christi and Phoebe share candid reflections on their own experiences with loss, emphasizing the importance of self-compassion and the transformative power of cherished memories.

As we pivot to an intriguing mystery, our episode delves into the unnerving appearances of drones across the U.S. What’s going on in our skies? These strange sightings stir questions about government transparency and security implications, leaving us to wonder whether these drones are harbingers of something more sinister or simply misunderstood phenomena. With theories ranging from the mundane to the extraordinary, including far-fetched conspiracies about an Iranian mothership, we sift through the noise, maintaining a skeptical eye on the lack of official explanations.

Shifting focus once more, we tackle the potential influence of billionaires on political dynamics and the ever-looming threat of government shutdowns. We explore the legislative hurdles surrounding the Equal Rights Amendment and the complex web of elite interests shaping governance. Despite the geopolitical tensions and uncertainty that cloud the horizon, we find solace in resilience and the steady support of our listeners. With gratitude and hope, we invite you to join our ongoing conversation, and together we’ll navigate these challenging yet fascinating times.

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Speaker 1:

simply vibing with christy chanel and phoebe james. It's gonna be that kind of night, let's go and we are back. I know you guys cannot keep up because we don't have a schedule. We have no schedule, we kind of just run with it and uh. But the good thing about a podcast is a lot of people don't listen to it the day it's released, so that's a positive. What we can promise a hundred percent is that we will give you at least one episode every three months. No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 2:

Um, I'm just kidding. Um, let's hope we get it together.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. So right now, we're just going to say at least one a month, maybe two, I mean, if we're really feeling it for so, yeah, that would be it. Um, but so today we are getting ready to head into our holiday season and along with the holiday rush, we also have the holiday news. A lot's happening right now, in the end of 2024, which is only fitting because this year has been a dumpster fire, complete and total dumpster fire. So how are you doing, phoebe?

Speaker 2:

I'm okay. I mean, like you said, dumpster fire. My husband's joining me tonight. He won't be here for long, though.

Speaker 1:

That's okay, hey, the more the merrier.

Speaker 2:

Dumpster fire Perfect, perfect way to describe this year for me and just me in general, right now.

Speaker 1:

What's going on, man?

Speaker 2:

What's happening? Holidays, which normally I love and I'm usually so cheerful I mean, christmas is my favorite time of year, but I don't know if we've talked about it much, but my mother passed away this year and so I knew the holidays would be hard. But I didn't. I had no idea how hard they were going to be. I actually cried on my way home from work today. It just kind of hits me, random times, small things make me think of her and so, yeah, I'm kind of back, dipping down low with with the deal and all of that, but I I know time will heal and no, it won't heal. Actually like wait never mind.

Speaker 1:

Well, it doesn't heal. It doesn't heal, maybe it does, it does and and the pain starts to turn to, um, positive things. You know what I mean. You start to feel more just love and, and I know, I know it less pain and more love. You know what I mean and you look back and you, I know it less pain and more love. You know what I mean and you look back and you remember all the good things and how lucky that you know, cause my mom passed away too, um, so mine, of course, I have a lot of time in between my healing and how, how my Christmas is now.

Speaker 1:

So I'm, I'm your future, I'm the future. And, uh, it did not get easier for a little while. And you know, of course, I still think of her and miss her, and there are just times when, when it hits me out of nowhere, it could be just a roller coaster of emotion. Something will trigger it, a memory or a show or a song, and and I'll feel that way. But does the, the pain? The pain part does subside with time and there's nothing else that can make it go faster, unfortunately, you know yeah, I'm just being graceful with myself and, you know, asking the people around me be patient.

Speaker 2:

you know, whenever I'm having these moments, um, because it's not like me to just cry out of the blue, but I'm embracing it because I know that's what I got to do to you know that's part of the process, so try not to run from it. Try not to mask it, and all that.

Speaker 1:

That's 100% of it, because I mean, you and I've had conversations before about it and I told you that I did run from it. I didn't want to feel it and so I just went numb. But not only did I go numb for the pain of her, but I also went numb to people around me and I think, obviously, looking back, I realized that that wasn't the healthiest way for me to go about it. That wasn't the healthiest way for me to go about it but, being 24, about to turn 25, I didn't even know how to deal with other types of things, much less the biggest pain of my entire life. Right past, you were a huge holiday person and always the the one that had the decorations out first and the one that was always, you know, planning stuff. Um, I did see that you put a Christmas tree in your office and decorated it. I did.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that was actually. It was my mom's tree, so I didn't want it to just to be left in a box. So I thought at work would be a good place for it, because then I'll, it'll have a home every year and I can look at it, you know when I'm at work. So I did, I decorated the house because you know, I got a 10 year old and I couldn't let him down with no tree or anything. So I did that. And then he was wanting to do the outside. He's been pressuring me and my husband to like put up our outside decorations and so last weekend we actually did uh.

Speaker 1:

So it's christmas here, finally, even though I don't feel jolly, but you know, but yeah it's, and you know it's the mom duties that I think will help pull you out of it yeah, he's a big, yeah, he's obviously a big help. But yeah, I mean, feel it, pheebs, feel it. Of course we'll be through the holidays soon, but for now, for me, I don't even have a tree up. I'm telling you as a mom.

Speaker 3:

Tree what?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't even have a tree up. I think it's because we're planning to go to Portland for Christmas early. Yeah, I won't even be there. No, we're not going to be here. My son and I are taking a road trip together. It's about a 30 and a half hour trip, so it's definitely an undertaking, but he's a junior and I wanted to make sure that we had those moments that you look back on and remember like we took a trip together, you know, and uh that's going to be an awesome memory. I hope so.

Speaker 2:

A good adventure.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm hoping so. And then we're going to go see my stepdad, who I haven't seen in 14 years. So and that ironically plays into my mom's death, because he raised me and my mom and my stepdad were together 20 years and it was a pain. Like I said, I went numb to everybody and everything around me. He was included in that whole thing and watching him move on was just too rough on me so I just pulled myself out of the situation completely for 14 years I know 14 years. So I think doing the podcast has really helped me heal a lot. I talk about things that maybe I wouldn't have normally talked about, which got me to a place to start really looking around, saying time's ticking and and I can't hold onto this anymore and I need to make memories now with him before I can't do that anymore. So, yeah, I have that regret.

Speaker 2:

So that's really good You're doing it. So this is like a special trip twofold, with your son spending that time and then seeing your stepdad.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a long time. That's a long time, you know. So it's a lifetime, and it just shows you what I did to myself by not going through it. You know I could have done it. You know I can't take full blame and I'm not going to take full blame because I think he was grieving and moving on in the only way he knew how. So it was both of us kind of kind of doing that. So this is the time, uh, to make, make amends and and move forward, and hopefully this is the start of a new relationship, a different relationship, and we'll we'll see how it goes, but Christmas is, is is upon us and I've done no shopping.

Speaker 2:

None, you can't see me, but I have a lot of presents to wrap behind me. Still, I didn't shop nearly as much this year as usual. Like normally I buy for this year is a very small list of who I bought for, so I apologize to all those who I normally would get a gift or I might've wanted to.

Speaker 1:

Christy. No, that's cool, that is so cool. I'm spending it all on my trip, no worries, um, but I will expect one next year and you have the whole year to plan, okay.

Speaker 2:

It'll be cool. Double next year, um yeah, whole year to plan. Okay, it'll be double next year. Um yeah, no, just take me to lunch and I'll be good to go, which you did already, so we'll just call that Christmas. Do it again, I might come up with something.

Speaker 1:

No, you know what?

Speaker 2:

No worries, I'm not getting my nieces and nephews like my grown ones. You know I'm getting their kids something. So, like the great, I said, if you're under 18, you'll get a gift over 18. I ain't doing it this year.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's a lot of family rules. I mean a lot. Of. A lot of times families do that because there's too many people.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, our family's grown, but every year we still we start the year saying or you know their spouses, we'd all have gotten each other something and we'd have so many gifts and so much fun Christmas Eve. I think that's why it's hard. Christmas Eve was a big. Thing for our family me and my mom and my sister. So I mean I mean, yeah, we're not even doing it this year.

Speaker 1:

It doesn't. You know, just for the record, it doesn't it? You know, just for the record, it doesn't feel like christmas for some reason. Anyway, like it just doesn't, and and it's not because I'm sad and it's not because of anything, it's just it doesn't feel like christmas. It could be my fault because I don't have a christmas tree up. Uh, you gave me garland that I put in my office and I just threw the bottom show. I liked it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah and um, you know, maybe next year I'll get more jolly and we'll do more with it, but uh, yeah, I mean honestly, when we're looking towards 2025, just in the, the world and the news and the headlines, it's very weird yeah, I was gonna say the whole world is a dumpster fire.

Speaker 2:

I think right now it's not just it's just right.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's joining us. I think we all feel it. You know, I, I and I think I think there's some nerves about going into 2025. Just what are we in for?

Speaker 2:

Heck, yeah. Yes, the world is nutty nutty right now, and it could be even nuttier than the last time this man was president, considering how weird the world's gotten since COVID. Like could you? I don't, I don't know, I mean, we got drones, you know like what is happening? Nobody understands what's happening in the world right now no, no.

Speaker 1:

And one more thing. You you mentioned covid and uh, the bird flu. California just uh declared a state of emergency for the bird flu I'm not even kidding and they said there's like 34 in one confined area in california, which is a lot when they don't normally have that or any other state. So now I'm worried because if it's declared there and we're right here in holiday season, everybody's traveling.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, they said this year is like going to set another record for the most people traveling for the holidays. Every year it's like a new record of travel and yeah, that's how all that stuff spreads.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so we've got that in the air. Um, but what were you saying? What did you hear about the drones? I mean, I've heard my own stuff, but what? So? What'd?

Speaker 2:

you come up with. Actually, let me pause sure okay, I'm trying to fit it in at a good place. So when tucson walked out, he didn't close the doors and so I feel like we were picking caleb's little voice in the background this whole time okay okay I thought you were gonna.

Speaker 1:

I thought you were gonna pull out a drone for me. I was like is it you, phoebe? Are you the one that's doing it?

Speaker 2:

I'm not I'm not tech tech savvy enough to pull that one off. I can tell you now they'd have solved it a long time ago if it was me doing it. Yeah, there's I mean there's just so many wild conspiracies, but I mean, at the end of the day, right now, from what I'm hearing, nobody really knows what they are, so it's up to us to decide. I mean, that's never a good thing when you don't tell people and you just let them decide on their own, like they're going to come up with the wildest theories. So I mean, that's all we're all working with right now.

Speaker 1:

And then the different, different people come out and say different things, and and it's nobody in our government it seems to know anything. Which is freaking me out a little bit, yeah, which?

Speaker 2:

is freaking me out a little bit. Yeah, so for people that don't know, I mean we're talking about these drones that suddenly, I mean they started getting spotted. What about a month ago in november over new jersey. It seemed like where they were concentrated, but then since then they've been kind of fanning out all over the us and they've been spotted in, like pennsylvania, I know um, they was spotted over trump's uh, one of his properties, his golf course in Bedminster, just all up along the East Coast. But then you sent me a story yesterday about they're in North Texas.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but I think North Texas is more like people like you know, us civilians like screwing with people, but in that you don't well, I mean, the only reason why I take pause to that is because you know they were flying in like a no-fly zone yes and that is where what's kind of troubling.

Speaker 2:

I don't know that people would do that, and then I feel like the average joe that just wants to do it for kicks or whatever. I feel like they'd get caught pretty quickly too. Like you know, we'd be able to trace that back. I keep pulling this light off God.

Speaker 1:

I do think, I do think, uh, I don't know they just when the. I don't remember who was out there talking, you know me, I'm, I'm, I'm light on the facts and just more on the theory. Um, but it's, but I. Somebody came out a representative, I don't know if it who it was a sheriff, whatever the new, the texas one, okay, yeah, and he's.

Speaker 1:

I mean, he said he's looking right because it's flying over like military, like near military installations and things right and that's prison, right, you can go to jail for that, yeah, people have gone to prison for flying drones in no-fly zones, like they've literally gone to prison for that.

Speaker 2:

So the fact that we're like I don't know, the government's just kind of sitting on it and not saying much and we don't know and we can't figure it out, like that's either our government is really stupid or you know it's them doing it. I mean, what is it you stupid, or you know it's them doing it?

Speaker 1:

I mean what is it? You know, I don't say less.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, come out and say like oh, but we know that it's not. You know they're not going to harm us. Like well, if you don't even know what they are, how do we know if they're not going to harm us? So either they know a lot more and they think we're dumb, or they don't know and they're not. I don't know which one it is, christine.

Speaker 1:

Okay. Well, I find it really difficult to believe they don't know anything. I mean, we have very the FBI, the CIA, we have so many departments that are funded, that are able to figure out things like that, and so for them not to know? I think it's more like either it's a protected bit of information that, if we knew, would cause problems for them and and or it's something that would terrify us and they don't want to send us into a state of panic, which I get. But I also feel like I was thinking about this the other day. I'm like why and are they so important, more important than we, that they can't tell us things like this, like why?

Speaker 2:

tell us I um, but I don't. Maybe. No, that's what I said. I don't know. Either they're really inept or or they're hiding something from us. Whether that's because it's like, there's a variety of reasons why that could be too, but have you heard some of the conspiracy theories? That's where the fun comes in hit me, hit me with it that they're coming up with.

Speaker 2:

Well, this isn't really a conspiracy theory. This started as like news, but it, you know, was fake news supposedly. But uh, us congressman jeff van drew claimed that, um, these were iranian drones that iran hasa mothership, mothership, off the coast, the east coast of the us, and they're sending these drones out, um to spy on us. I guess have you heard one?

Speaker 1:

I have heard that mothership there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and they're saying that one's not true, of course.

Speaker 1:

I don't believe it is either.

Speaker 2:

You don't believe that one's true. I mean, I'm hearing that. I just don't know that if Iran could have that kind of technology, because you know they're saying they're like SUV sized and the battery life on them there's no technology we have that that could sustain that long of a battery life.

Speaker 1:

So I I also think that they would have known about it. Like, I feel like we're supposed to be two steps ahead of what's happening. You know, typically they are, and then they release it when they have to release it, but they know about it ahead of time. So I would think if that was the case, they would have probably known about it ahead of time and they seem like that's why I don't believe that, it's that and they would move it, they would stop it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, why haven't they shot him down? There's a lot of congressmen now, I mean a lot of people in the political game, saying like why aren't we shooting them down? Like if we really don't know what they are, we'd have shot them down. Like there's just no way. We don't know and are just sitting here and letting them fly over our heads.

Speaker 1:

I don't get it. Well, you heard about the one that either was shot down or crashed in Hillsborough, new Jersey, right? No, yes, do you have? There was one that went down and then there was. You know, I always get my stuff from TikTok. They had somebody that went live and said I'm going to go down there and see what's going on, and he's standing out there, and he actually had the live and then they banned the live. He can't get the footage back, but he was out there. People saw the live and he said he saw a large area. They were in hazmat suits. The fire department was there. Somerset County also went down there to help and assist and they were there the entire day. So the fact that they were in hazmat suits has got me a little concerned. Now they're just being protective of themselves and they're being cautious or they know something. And so there has been one that has either crashed or been shot down in Jersey.

Speaker 2:

Wow, I didn't. Okay, so that I mean that lends to. Another theory going around is that they're looking for missing radioactive material. Have you? Heard that one, so that means they would be like government drones, but they're looking for some missing um radioactive material which sounds kind of creepy, and I mean, if that were the case I would explain why. They had hazmat suits and were down there all day trying to get that I don't know cleaned up. But that one's already you know. It's like they're already coming out saying that's not true either.

Speaker 1:

Well, if we think about the trail of the drones, if it was material that they lost warhead, whatever it is they lost, I wonder if there's a pattern to where it started and where it's going like it. Would it be somewhere that that's you can travel and there's a path and that's why they're going in those areas? Or are they sporadic and all over the place, which would lead you to think they're not necessarily looking for that? That would be my thought process.

Speaker 2:

Yeah Right, the Mayor, michael Melham ofham of belleville, new jersey. Do you know where that is? Are you familiar with belleville?

Speaker 2:

I don't know, I don't know belleville okay he said that he thinks the drones are searching for something, um, because they're flying in a pattern, like as if they were, you know, searching for something. I guess it's more of a pattern, um, and that's why he thinks that, oh, grid like pattern. So maybe they are. And he does think it's the radioactive. I guess it's a radioactive pin that went missing I don't know what that means In early December, but then these drones started in November, I thought. So that timeline doesn't really match up either.

Speaker 1:

There is no consistency in these stories. No, there's not and I think everyone is truly clueless um so yeah, so yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And then I I saw an article today that a moderator of a reddit forum dedicated to drones he actually resigned in a fury because he says this is all bullshit. He says uh, none of this are actual drones. Um, he said it's all bullshit and declared I can't stem the tide of dumbness. Uh, he had a. He wrote a note, a resignation note, basically, and he said, to address the obvious, the current idiotic discourse over non-existent swarms of drones in the eastern us contributed to this choice of him resigning. Seriously, if you guys were seeing all the posts I've been removing for the past couple weeks, you'd be sick of this place too.

Speaker 2:

Um, but he, he resigned in a big tizzy and and he, he, his. I read his resignation letter. It's really long so we're not going to read it here, but I mean he does talk about these are all either man drones or they're police drones or they're in some cases it's actual aircraft. He's basically saying that this is kind of like sky is falling chicken little situation where one person thought they saw a drone and so then they're telling someone else and I mean it could have been a drone.

Speaker 1:

Could have been a neighborhood drone, but it's kind of more spreading word of mouth and getting sensationalized and turning into something he's convinced it's. It's nothing and we're all just blowing it out of proportion and it's, you know, snowballing into where we're at right now and it's all bullshit. That's what he says. So it could be like look over here and we'll go over here, do something else so that we take your mind off of this, so that you focus on this.

Speaker 2:

Could it be that I mean he didn't say that. I think he thinks that we're just a bunch of idiots, Like the US is, a bunch of idiots that are going to play the game of telephone and get it totally wrong in the end? I don't. Yeah, I see You're like. That makes sense too.

Speaker 1:

I mean everything does.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Some people are saying it's just another diversion, Like what you were saying, like hey, look over here at these drones and and let's, let's put a big mystery behind that so you don't see what we're doing over here behind this curtain. I've not heard of what's going on behind the curtain, um, to know what's back on that one up. But yeah, I mean, that's, that's out there too, as if it's just orchestrated to get our attention.

Speaker 1:

Yep, Get move your attention off of something else.

Speaker 2:

that government shut down but that's yeah.

Speaker 1:

That leads you to the next.

Speaker 2:

I know, but we got one more conspiracy. I did. I did need to bridge it. Have you heard of the project blue beam conspiracy?

Speaker 1:

I've heard about it, but I don't know much about it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's just, I mean, mean it's. It's a conspiracy that's been going around for I mean decades. Now that it's gonna, it's supposedly our government is going to um plan a fake, fake alien invasion to, you know, usher in the antichrist and a one world government and they're the people that believe this are really taking. This is like this. Is it Stage one? We're here.

Speaker 1:

Well, I mean they have other theories to back that up with where we're going with Trump. I'm just saying Don't say that that's where we're going with Trump. That is definitely how I feel he wants to be a dictator. If he had it his way, he said on day one, I will be a dictator. He said it. I don't.

Speaker 2:

I'm not even imagining that so his most recent run, or the last one? This one oh, jesus, I didn't hear.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he said on day one, I plan on being a dictator this.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's like he was president once and understood all the things he got wrong, so that now he does know like this is. I mean, he's definitely surrounded himself with the right people. That's going to help him be a dictator that's the plan man.

Speaker 1:

Project 2025 is a real deal, and that's something else that I learned. It's like you know, in project 2025, they talk about more or less dismantling the media anyone that disagrees with Trump. And recently he was being interviewed and somebody asked him are you planning on going after creators you know, like influencers, creators that have a big following and he said first it'll be the newspapers and then, of course, if we have to do it, we'll do it. That's what we have to do, and it's like well, if we're talking about Trump and Trump makes the decision on what is true and false, when we all know he doesn't know the difference At all, how is that, you know, an unbiased decision? It's not.

Speaker 2:

It's scary. It's so hypocritical because elon's right up there with him. You know that's his buddy right now and he bought twitter just because he wanted to make it free speech and you could say anything you want to. And that's why I'm buying it, because we need to go back and we need to stop all the you know where the liberals are making everyone shut up and blah, blah, blah, but then they're gonna to literally, you know shut down news that they don't like, like well free speech and constitution.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I have to be honest, the more I hear about Elon Musk, the more I get freaked out, like he freaks me out more than Trump freaks me out, and he is one of the main reasons that the government is headed for a shutdown. I guess what is it 24 hours from now? So by the time this airs, we'll know whether it was shut down or not. But it's scary, it's really scary, and I can't remember Elon Musk's mother came out in an interview, um, and said something and I can't remember what it was, but I was like what in the hell? Hold on. Yeah, look up Elon Musk's mother.

Speaker 2:

I know who his mother is, but I haven't heard what she's saying.

Speaker 1:

I mean it just happened, mom in interview.

Speaker 2:

I'm just. It makes zero sense. He's a fucking south african, isn't he like? He's not even fucking from here. How are we letting this man decide like our government? Now, this makes fucking so fucked up like this is not real.

Speaker 1:

This is. I thought it feels like we're living in a simulation.

Speaker 2:

You, know, that's where I was going.

Speaker 1:

I know.

Speaker 2:

It's more proof Like the shit is just like idiocracy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, here it is Elon Musk's mother, may Musk, is facing criticism after suggesting after suggesting that people should have children regardless of whether they can afford them or not. Um that, his mom appeared on December 15th on Fox and Friends with Rachel Campos Duffy, where she was asked about her response on X formerly Twitter last month to a comedian who claimed that it was too expensive to have children. Musk argued that if certain expenses, such as going out to eat, were eliminated, it was possible to start a family. Having children is the greatest gift in your life, which sure, yes.

Speaker 1:

When Elon was born, we were in a small two-bedroom apartment overlooking a garage. When Kimball was born, we moved to a two-bedroom apartment with a view Blah, blah, blah, blah. We didn't go out to dinner nor to the movies, as my former husband was promoted at the engineering firm. We upgraded our lifestyle. He was then open. He then opened his own engineering firm and we could move to a beautiful home in a better area. She concluded by claiming that having children never forced her to sacrifice anything and that they add value to your life.

Speaker 2:

Oh, she's like living in a bubble and that's her reality, but like that's not reality. That's not everybody else's reality. Honey, if your son didn't have so much fucking money, maybe people could afford to have kids. I mean, that's the problem. Like, him and Jess Bezos have all the fucking money and all his other little. You know what the 50 families that have what 99% of the world's wealth Like? Get the fuck out of here and

Speaker 1:

she's part, I know yeah she's part of that. They ever lived in a one-bedroom apartment. His mom was a model like yeah, um, did you want to finish anything on the government? I'm not the government shut down on, uh, the drones. If not, I have something I want to go into yeah, no, I think we covered all the.

Speaker 2:

I mean right now you know there's nothing else to cover, just because they don't know yeah, um conspiracy theory so well, we didn't say aliens, which is also one of those theories. So project bluebeam.

Speaker 2:

I mean, we could oh oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah, we did then because we didn't really go into detail. We just said project bluebeam, that's a staged alien invasion. I guess there's also it's not blue beam and state not staged, it's real aliens. That would be a separate one from that real aliens. Do we think it's real aliens that's out here doing all this? I mean, if it is, they want us to see them on purpose, because they've been around for probably ever and we've never seen them before. So if it is aliens, they obviously want us to know they're there this time you know, at first I was like is this, is this aliens?

Speaker 1:

like that's the first thing my mind went to because, you know, they just told us they live in the ocean, so where else am I going to go with it? Um, so I was like, all right, maybe, maybe this is aliens, and the more we're moving through it, I I just don't feel any panic in anybody's eyes really.

Speaker 2:

So it makes me feel like it's it's all earthbound shit yeah, I mean it could definitely be earthbound shit, but then I I would say I gauging people not being panicked. I wouldn't use that as a cage because even when the government came out and said, hey, ufos are real, nobody was panicked and I thought that would have been like a game changer, like nobody panicked. So you know.

Speaker 1:

You're right, now you're right. So basically, we know nothing. We know absolutely freaking nothing. How crazy is that? That is just beyond belief at this point in our lives that we don't know may zero.

Speaker 2:

That's what I said. It's only two options either they know when they're hiding some, or they don't know and our like it's.

Speaker 1:

It's embarrassing very, very and I would say uh to anyone if you, if you're listening and you think you know what it is, you need to tell us. We want to know, we're dying to know and nothing is too crazy, we will listen. So throw it in the comments, let us know what you're thinking, because we have no idea, we're clueless. So I did hear Bethany, bethany Frank, I think, bethany Frankel. I know, I know Listen, I know my sources.

Speaker 2:

But I do want to know what she said, because I saw the headlines but actually I couldn't click on it. You did see the headlines I saw headlines that, like she has a theory, and I'm like I don't, I'm not entertaining that one. I do want to know, though. Tell me, tell me, give me the details.

Speaker 1:

Okay, let me find her Cause. I need, because I need you to hear it, because, see, I feel like the only listen, listen, I am not using Bethany Frankel as my news source. I want you to know. I want that to be very, very clear. All right, I'm not. But I do believe Bethany Frankel does have friends in high places. She does know people and she does have a very long, extended network. So when she says the person she talked to told her that they should, probably she should get her daughter and probably go somewhere, that freaked me out a little bit and she, she publicized it. So I'm going to find the one where she says that.

Speaker 4:

Created a no fly zone, and in that zone are areas where you guys weren't saying there was a high concentration of drones.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, that's not it Okay, that's not it Okay. So you've gone full drone. That's not the one.

Speaker 4:

Oh, I'm like what is a plasmoid? I gotta Google that they can be confused as orbs, but that they would not be.

Speaker 1:

That's not the one.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I'm like what is a plasmoid? I got to Google that.

Speaker 1:

I've heard that too.

Speaker 2:

I got to go to the Google machine.

Speaker 1:

Here it is.

Speaker 4:

Who was SWAT? Who flew aircrafts in the military? Who currently flies helicopters for high-profile, high-security individuals said that the helicopters for NEST which search for N-U-C-L-E-A-R-Ws have not left.

Speaker 4:

That doesn't necessarily mean anything, because if they did leave then we would absolutely have an answer Said that these drones which are in full force tonight on a crazy rainy night, that they are seemingly searching for something possibly radiological, he said. Possibly radiological, he said. And that drones are electric, not fuel. So we're sort of comparing them to what helicopter flights are. So still, obviously, in this volume it's very expensive, but not like having all these private planes that are manned and operated by fuel in the air. Don't know if that helps anybody.

Speaker 1:

That's not what it was.

Speaker 4:

Shit.

Speaker 2:

So she thinks like that is searching for the radioactive stuff that we're missing.

Speaker 4:

No but.

Speaker 1:

I want you to hear the scary one.

Speaker 4:

So this is unsettling. It's the upside down. One party that I just spoke to saw four aircrafts in.

Speaker 1:

She said I'm sorry, I just it's. Oh you're fine.

Speaker 4:

I think so, work with Pentagon and NASA and like secret projects, and he has been messaging me that he will never forgive himself if he doesn't tell the people that he knows that for a month he's been watching this situation and now, several days ago, before it became a discussion in the mainstream media that these drones are ours and that they could very possibly be sniffing out something very dangerous, some missing, dangerous W from the war, and that areas that coincide with where the drones have been seen have spiked in radiation. So he said it's time to think about where I am and that I might want to go somewhere with my daughter. So, like for me, you know, we we blow things off and we think nothing's going to happen, but things do happen. I remember sitting in my car with my driver who said to me, months before I even knew what the words were so she's all over that, she's all invested in that.

Speaker 1:

It's probably because it gets a lot of views. But, um, when I was like, okay, so what do we do? We're just gonna hang out and be fried. What the fuck are we gonna do? You know what I mean? So, yeah, uh, like I said, if you're listening to us, please let us know what you think. Um, we're all over the place. I'm hoping maybe the next time we come up, maybe we can have an update and talk about what they found out, because I can't believe it would just be. That's it.

Speaker 2:

We never know anything well, unfortunately I I just found another story that adds more weight to what you were talking about, um the, the crash well, it's just says.

Speaker 2:

a US-China relations expert has issued a chilling warning for Americans to plan for the worst in light of the ongoing drone mystery, and it's following reports of unexplained radiation spikes in the area. A Geiger counter world map, a tool that monitors global radiation levels, flag two areas in the New York Metro region as red this week. These areas are reportedly exceeding the safety threshold of 200 counts per minute. Similar red flags have been raised further North, near Connecticut.

Speaker 4:

Hmm.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's. I think that's probably the closest to truth. Yeah, and that's.

Speaker 2:

I think that's probably the closest to truth, yeah.

Speaker 1:

And that's Gary.

Speaker 2:

He says that it could be linked to radiation. Oh he, chang, has wrote a book is. If you want to find out who this guy is, his latest book plan read China's project to destroy America. He explores the looming threat of a surprise Chinese attack on American soil. He drew parallels between the current drone situation and the 2023 spy balloon crisis when a Chinese craft was detected in US airspace. So I mean, sounds like Chang's kind of could be radiation or could be the China planet invasion, which that would make just as much sense as all the other theories.

Speaker 1:

honestly, Well, the good thing is, we can't live in fear, so we just got to. You know, keep going and and hope that if it is our drones and they are looking for something, that they find it. You know, keep going and and hope that if it is our drones and they are looking for something, that they find it. You know, they find it. And I I still believe that the Texas ones were not like the other ones. I feel like you know what I mean. Yeah, it just doesn't feel the same, because there was like a few and and they were gone, so, gone. So I think the ones over jersey are very valid well, it sounds like those are.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but hopefully the texas ones, like you said, are just some scammers or some kids or you know something like that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah yeah, well, on another note, uh, we were all right. As our world is ending, let's hit another subject happy new year fuck um, yeah, so I was watching about the government shutdown. Have you heard anything about it?

Speaker 2:

a little bit yeah what'd you hear?

Speaker 1:

because I'm going to play something that I just saw on tiktok, so I want to. I want to know what you know about it I mean I don't.

Speaker 2:

I didn't go really into this because this is happens. This happens quite often where the government is close to shut down and it's a lot of drama in the Senate and you know they don't want to approve the plan and they go back and forth and usually it's a Hail Mary the last hour right before it's going to actually shut down.

Speaker 2:

So I kind of don't always pay attention to that when it's going to happen, but I did see that just some interesting things that apparently Elon Musk is flexing his authority and he has a big part in this shutdown, so I'm curious to hear what you have on it.

Speaker 1:

OK, so this is Democrats. Pile on it's titled Today, the 19th on it's titled.

Speaker 3:

Today, the 19th, it says democrats pile on president musk for interfering in the spending bill fight.

Speaker 5:

Look, billionaires are running the show here, and so what I want to say to people is you thought you voted for Trump. You didn't. Actually, you voted for billionaires to run the show, because who's taking orders from whom? Musk is calling the shots and the House GOP is falling in line, and these billionaires, they don't care about us, they don't care about America, because Elon Musk wants a big, massive tax break in the next administration. That's what this is about, folks. It's about a big, freaking tax break for billionaires. That's what it's about. Don't be confused about what's going on here. So you think we'll be in a shutdown?

Speaker 1:

Oh, I do.

Speaker 5:

I do because they don't care. They don't care, and Johnson is so worried about his speakership that he's going to cave. He's going to cave. My Republican colleagues are going to cave because they're too afraid of being primaried to do the right thing. That's what this is about, thanks.

Speaker 2:

I would agree with her 100%.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and that's what's crazy is that people don't even realize what they voted for, really realize what they voted for, really realize what they voted for. Trump is not the one. He's not the one, it's all his cronies that are around him. Elon, specifically, really scares the crap out of me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean it's, yeah and it's, it's led up to this. This has been years in the making, honestly, because at this point, all our politicians are bought by corporations or billionaires or you know just that elite class, and so there's nobody that's going to stop them and put put a roadblock up, because they're all bought and paid for too, you know the Young Turks was saying.

Speaker 2:

I heard them talking about it's. At this point, our government is a bunch of simpletons. Like they're not smarter than us, they don't know more than us. Like do they know stuff we don't know? No, they don't. They are a bunch of simpletons who are bought. And that is exactly what the ruling class wanted Our simpletons that they can just run over. And that's what's happening from the top to the bottom. At this point, you know, not only have all the you know, senators and all that are bought. Uh, presidency is now too.

Speaker 4:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, um, I'm hoping that they're able to get the ERA put through, um, before that's the equal rights amendment. For anybody listening that's unsure of what those letters mean. Those are really big, bold letters because it means that we women will be protected in the Constitution. And I know people want to talk about all these other amendments that say that we're protected, but we're not, because it doesn't specifically say sexes. You can't be discriminated by based on sex. It doesn't say that anywhere else. So until we can get that in there, we are not protected.

Speaker 1:

And Trump fought it his last term. Of course he did, yeah, I mean. And the crazy thing is this has been I think it's just the. I want you to hear just the beginning of this, because I think it it might shock you. Um, did you know? This has been going on for 107 years? We've been fighting for this bill, the ERA, the equal rate, let me, let me just play you this, because I didn't know it either and I'm learning a lot, as lot as we get further into things. Here it is. Let me unmute it.

Speaker 3:

All of the drama around the Equal Rights Amendment right now and what you can and must do before January 20th. First of all, let's get some ERA facts straight. Fact number one the Equal Rights Amendment was introduced 101 years ago 101 last week. It was passed out of the House and Congress in the 70s and it was sent to the states for ratification. Fact number two there are only two steps in the Constitution required to amend it. Step number one the bill has to be passed by the House and Congress and sent to the states. Step number two it has to be ratified by 38 states, and ratified means each state's House and Senate have to affirm the bill. So fact number three is that in 2020, on January 15th, virginia became the 38th and final state needed to ratify the Equal Rights Amendment.

Speaker 3:

There are lots of legal questions around the Equal Rights Amendment related to a time limit on ratification that was put in the preamble of the bill when it passed out of the House and Congress in the 70s by people who wanted to sink the Equal Rights Amendment. It was about five men, as you might imagine. However, the ratification process to amend the Constitution obviously requires hyper consensus, and we have achieved it. There is nothing in the Constitution that contemplates a deadline. There's also nothing in the Constitution that contemplates a deadline. There's also nothing in the Constitution that really contemplated we would ever be 50 states and need 38 of them to agree on anything.

Speaker 1:

That's bullshit.

Speaker 3:

Such as we are, and the Equal Rights Amendment has achieved that. The other things that are facts, that are important and I forgot what number one we might be on four, maybe five uh is that the equal rights amendment has incredibly broad support. Nearly 80% of Americans would like it to be affirmed into the constitution. Uh, and really the last step is for the archivist to certify and publish it. Um, she, who is linked through her husband to a Koch brothers enterprise this makes me feel kind of shady she has said I'm not going to do it. Uh, but she doesn't actually get to decide what she does or doesn't do. She is a cleric of the constitution and of our national documentation, so she has to do what the constitution says. Uh has to be affirmed.

Speaker 3:

Um, president Biden, uh should be able to instruct her to simply publish the equal rights amendment, since it has achieved its final ratifications, and I just want to point out this is my final fact. Number six, maybe more um, is that, uh, every single amendment to the constitution has had major legal questions around it at the time of its ratification and collectively as a society, we've just gone. You know what that should be in there. And so the Equal Rights Amendment, which is 24 words, to affirm gender equality in the Constitution, that we should not apply laws differently based on the gender that you are, we all pretty much broadly agree, and that is Republicans, democrats, independents. We broadly agree that, like those are left language that should be in there. We're the only modern constitution without it we have only one.

Speaker 3:

January 20th, because the Trump administration has made it extremely clear that they would like to take the ERA. They tried after the final state ratified in 2020, and they will try again. And really now there are two paths and only one is really feasible. So one path is that Congress and the Senate somehow magically get their shit together to pass a bill that rescinds this unconstitutional Talks a lot, but she's a filmmaker and she's actually done a whole film on it.

Speaker 1:

The archivist is our, is our answer? And just, I think Biden just did an interview recently it hasn't been released yet, but little clips have been and they said you know, what do you want to accomplish before your term ends? And he said women's rights. So I feel like he's listening. People are making a rumbling and I don't know. What do you think? Do you think it'll happen?

Speaker 2:

I hope so.

Speaker 1:

I'm I'm scared it might not. I'm really nervous that something can come in the middle and block it. Do you guys? I mean anybody listening, phoebe? Phoebe and I are filming this on December 19th, okay, so tomorrow we will have 30 days, 30 days to make this happen. So I think, if you listen to anything in this podcast today, listen to this.

Speaker 1:

This, right here, is so much more important than you could possibly ever dream of. With Trump coming into play, this is a big deal because they want to take women's rights away. So please make some more noise. We don't have that much time to do it, and after you're done, you're done, but you might've just protected yourself and your daughters. So please do something. Yeah, 20 days or 30 days. We have 30 days. So that is, that is my big headline, because, you know, I am, I, I, I'm all about that and it's freaking me out. So, um, hopefully it happens, yeah, so, and I'll put some information in the show notes in case anybody wants to uh, go over the steps again and, uh, we can protect ourselves together. So the last thing on my list is the TikTok ban.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's heavy hitting for you.

Speaker 1:

Well, it's heavy hitting for me because I just, yeah, I love hearing, I love hearing people's point of view, and I'm an adult and I know how to look on Google and make sure there's facts behind it Do I always, no, but I know I can, and so I think free speech is so very important and but not only for me there's a lot of people that make their money there and they are slated to lose. I think it's like in the a billion dollars for the economy. This is a lot of money we're talking about and they're crippling people that make their income there with TikTok shop and their sales, and you know, amazon's now a part of it and it's a big and it's a growing area to sell your own personal things, your products. And then, of course, you know you're talking about the influencers that have have these huge followings that they're. They're making money there and that's how they, you know, get their word out there and we use it. That's where our social media platform is, and and I'm almost at 3000 on my own personal page and it's, you know, I've made friends there, so I have been, of course cause I feel like it's going to happen been throwing out. This is where you can find me. This is, you know, our podcast. I've been putting it out almost in every post. I have it out there and it's working.

Speaker 1:

People are definitely going to other platforms. I'm not really a X person, I won't use X. So I went to blue sky, which is the like, the old the, the old, uh, the old Twitter, and I think the old Twitter founders are part of it. Could be wrong, could be wrong. You can double check me um on that and let me know in the comments, but I think they're behind it. So it's a very good place, uh, if you don't want to be listening to Elon Musk all the time. But that's a spot. But I don't really. I'm not really a poster like that. You know, I've never really that's not been my platform. I'm more of a speaker. So, yeah, hopefully YouTube will grow.

Speaker 2:

You really think that the TikTok is going to get banned?

Speaker 1:

Well, it's slated to be banned officially on January 19th. Um, they just TikTok's fighting man. They are fighting bite dance. They're fighting and the Supreme court just agreed to hear from them and that is slated for January 20th. So they have like weeks, uh, to prepare for this case. But they will hear them, but they haven't stopped the ban. That's scheduled for January 19th. Everything hinges on the January 10th hearing. But what will happen is the TikTok app is not just going to magically disappear from our phones. It will, however, not be available on the App Store. So, apple and Spotify, you won't be able to get it and there will be no updates. So essentially, the app will just disintegrate. It will not be any good. It'll take a few months to do that, but that's what will ultimately happen. And people are saying go get a VPN. You know from Canada or all these other places that you can do, and I don't know if that's legal or not. I mean, I don't know Like who can do that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't know much about that and I'm not. I'm not going to take a chance, I'm not going to do it Like it is what it is. I'll accept the fate of it, and you're going to see a lot more things happen, those the air of a new social media app will be born, hopefully better, and um, we'll all be there so we can talk to each other. Yeah, that's the goal. So there you go. You got anything else for me, for them?

Speaker 1:

not for me not for me, of course she doesn't. Phoebe's a woman of few words when it comes to the end of a season, a year, yeah, so we are. I mean, this, essentially, is probably going to be our last podcast episode for these You're off on your road trip.

Speaker 2:

You're not going to be podcasting, yeah.

Speaker 1:

No, I'm not so close out the year for us, Phoebe. Give us some really powerful words for us to use going into the new year uh, I, I don't.

Speaker 2:

I am at a loss, christy. I mean, I tried to think of something, but this year was just such dog shit that I don't even want to, because I think last year I was you said nothing.

Speaker 1:

Last year you said the same fucking thing that you did I can't say like fuck that, you know.

Speaker 2:

I'm just torn because I don't want to say something and jinx us and make it I don't know fair?

Speaker 1:

um, all right. Well, I'll speak for both of us if you have nothing, okay, uh, thank you, and I'm just gonna. I didn't write anything, I didn't even think about it. I don't even know what I'm going to say right now, but I'm just going to speak and say that I think for us, it's been a year of personal growth.

Speaker 1:

Our podcast started as Code Green Plant in 2023, september. That was our first podcast episode and we have just been, I think, growing. I think it becomes easier and easier as we sit here and do it, and I foresee great things in the future when it comes to this and our own careers outside of this. I see some really good things there. We've picked up some great listeners here on the podcast. We got our year in review and we see Germany is still holding steady as one of the top countries listening to us. So I know we can't say enough good things about Germany we really can't and so I think, if we can look past the dumpster fire of our government and what's about to happen there, and if we can support, if we can afford to survive, good things are coming, good things are coming.

Speaker 2:

If the drones don't like, kill us all somehow, or alien invasion doesn't happen, I don't. You know there's not a nuclear warhead going off in New York. Good year, good year ahead, good year. Know there's not a nuclear warhead going off in new york. Good year, good year ahead good year.

Speaker 1:

Just don't go in the ocean if you don't want to get swallowed up by an alien invasion inside the sea. Uh, what else? No freedom of speech, because all the media will be gone. So that's. That's all we got for you good luck.

Speaker 2:

We're gonna be here, though, to report on it, and we will support each other through it, just like we did this year yeah, we will we will, we're fighting and we'll, we'll keep fighting we'll keep fighting.

Speaker 1:

That's the main thing is. We're survivors and we're going to figure this out together and we want to thank you for simply vibing with us. Do you want to share any words of parting?

Speaker 5:

Um, no, I almost choked.

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