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From Chaos to Clarity: Navigating Morning Mayhem, the Battle with Addiction, and the Stigma of Marijuana
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Ever had one of those mornings where everything seems to go wrong? Join us, Christi Chanelle and Phoebe James, as we share our own tale of a chaotic morning filled with broken appliances and delayed plans. We promise you'll find solace in our amusing anecdotes and have a few laughs along the way.
From the chaos of home appliances, we transition to a rather serious topic - smoking and addiction. We open up about our personal struggles, the hurdles faced in the quitting journey, and how it impacts not only us, but the people around as well. Then, we shed light on the societal shifts surrounding smoking in public places, tracing it back to our own family experiences. To top it all, we brave the controversial waters of discussing marijuana smoking in states where it's legal. We share our experiences, the glaring stigma and lay bare our thoughts on how we can as a society break free from these shackles. It's a rollercoaster of a conversation, and we invite you to hop on the ride with us on Code Green Plant!
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So, okay, let me do the intro, because I feel like we have a lot of chaos. What are you doing? And I am having a moment You're getting centered.
Speaker 2:I'm trying, I'm trying, okay, I feel that I'm deflate.
Speaker 1:Okay, ooh, what's happening there? I'm sorry, it's just-.
Speaker 2:It's it's it fits. That's what's going on. Your chaos, that was my dog outside the door like what. I thought that was your husband. Oh, if only my husband would make a noise because he missed me that much.
Speaker 1:Welcome to where are we? Code Greenfoot Ah, I can't even speak. Welcome to Code Green-.
Speaker 2:What the hell is happening.
Speaker 1:Okay, get him out, get him out, okay. So let me try that again. A little bit more calm. Okay, welcome to Code Green-. Alright, we're gonna get through this.
Speaker 3:Community violation Code Greenplant.
Speaker 1:Hi and welcome to Code Greenplant. I'm your host, christy Chanel, and I'm here with Phoebe James. Hello, christy, hello, I feel like this is gonna be all over the place. I have a chaotic-. I'm so sorry. Just even before we started recording, I had a choking attack. Her dog is really wanting to see her right now and might make a guest appearance throughout the show.
Speaker 2:He might. Yeah, my dog or my kid wanted the two.
Speaker 1:Mm-hmm. So what's happening today? Like I know, I had to delay a little bit. You had to delay a little bit. What happened with your delay? Yeah?
Speaker 2:Um, just nothing, oh, okay. Well, it was totally fine with me and it actually is your delay is the reason for my delay. That makes sense. It's a snowball effect, it is. It is so. I've had a chaotic-. My day started off so calm. It was such a nice Saturday morning. I got up and I cleaned the house real good. You know how I am with my cleaning, so I got the house very clean, like light, a candle clean. I took a shower. My washer's been broke, have I told you that?
Speaker 1:Well, I saw that you had clothes in your trunk, so that part of the conversation when we were at work the other day.
Speaker 2:I rode around with them all week because I'm like, hey, maybe I'll stop over there at some point, just take them with me. So the washer's been broke. I looked on you know an app for a repairman. I had we had a repairman come out the week before last, like right before Thanksgiving holiday, and I thought I'd hear back from him because he said like, oh, I got to do some research and I'm going to have to order some parts and you know I'll get back with you. So I waited all week, didn't hear anything. And then Thursday I reached out like, hey, what's going on, girl? I haven't heard back. So obviously they can't fix my washer. You think they would have told you that.
Speaker 2:I wish they would have told me so I could have moved on to the next repairman. Or like is it beyond repair, even though it's not even that old? Do I just need to get a new one? I was trying to, you know, do the whole like reuse, recycle, like I'm trying to not be wasteful and just toss it out without trying to get it fixed? So, anyways, what's your?
Speaker 1:plan. So what are you going to do?
Speaker 2:I'll find another repairman this week and my plan was to just go and drop a load off at my sisters, go run some errands, then get back home to be ready for the podcast. But since she texted me and said, hey, I'll be a little late, I'm like, okay, I could get two loans done. This is where all the trouble comes in. It took longer than it said because you know what, I'll give you a timer. And when I left it said it was going to be 34 minutes and I was gone a good 50 minutes, 55 probably. So I thought it would be good and done. And I walked in and it was like five minutes left. So I'm like but okay, like that's fine. So I throw the next load in and it said it would take 35 minutes and I'm like I got plenty of time to get home by 245. I'll start this load plenty of time. Like.
Speaker 2:You texted me and I was standing over the washer right then trying to figure out what's going on when you text me and said you're ready, and so it just kept on, like spilling water out on my clothes and it wouldn't spin, and it just kept saying back and it just went on and on and so I tried to like force it to drain and spin. And it drained and it started to spin, and then it stopped spinning and said balancing, and then it started filling the bucket again, finally just threw it all in, my like. I'm like, okay, I'm giving up because it's pretty much done. I was just waiting on the last, you know that last thing. So I threw sopping wet clothes into my basket and just screw it, I'm going to go home. So I could barely carry the basket, but I'm like I got to hurry up and get there the pocket.
Speaker 1:And I was like all right, well, I guess the delay was good, but maybe it was bad.
Speaker 2:But I mean, you got some stuff done. Yeah, I got stuff done. I had to drag it to my car, got it in and then I realized I left my phone in my sister's house, but I'd already locked the door and she has like a pen, a push pen, to get it. You know, a pen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah a pad.
Speaker 2:The pen number is saved in my phone. So my phone is at the size, oh my God. So I finally just like screw it. I left again without my phone, so now I got to go back and get my phone.
Speaker 1:Luckily you have two phones and I would have never gotten on this podcast.
Speaker 2:I would have not got here, I know, but I was driving, like you know, trying to get here. I was driving like a maniac, christy, I'm so sorry, I was trying to get here.
Speaker 1:No, no, no worries, I was see, I wish that my voice would work here, but I apologize for the if you guys keep hearing me do that, but I actually know that if I'm running close to the time that we need to podcast, that I need to add at least 15 to 20 minutes to that, because I have to say hi to my dad.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah.
Speaker 1:You know, I get there and it's like he wants to talk and he wants to visit and I get that and I totally get, and I do too, but I'm like I got to go, dad, Like you know. So I have to make some time initially for him, so that's pretty much what I did. I knew I was running kind of behind, so that impacted it. Yeah, yeah, it did, it did.
Speaker 3:And so yeah.
Speaker 1:And I was told. You know, christmas is coming, so you know we had our Christmas conversation topic. You know what do you want for Christmas. And you know my dryer broke a couple of weeks back. It was about a month ago. My dryer completely broke and it was right after I got back from Colorado. No, it was right before I left. That night. I was leaving for Colorado, I had my last load that I was going to pack into my bags. My dryer's going, and all of a sudden it stops and I'm like holy shit. I'm like okay, well, I'm going to have to put the clothes in my dad's house and dry on there. But I was stressed about it the entire trip.
Speaker 1:My oldest son he's got this knack for handy dandy, fixing stuff and he's like let me take a look at it. And I you know I'm brushing it off. I'm like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, because I don't. He's my kid, so I'm not going to think all of a sudden he's going to be able to fix my dryer, when he's never fixed a dryer before he looks at it. He's like mom, you know that there's this little like thing that's at the door and it's kind of like a. I don't know if it's like an open or closed or something like that. It's a. See, I don't know crap about this, but anyway, he pulls it off and he goes. I think it's burnt out. I'm still like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like order the part. I'm like how much is the part? He's like it's $7. I'm like, okay, I'll do that, I'll order $7. If it doesn't work, whatever, $7. Not a big deal. I order the part. Austin comes over, he changes the part and the freaking thing works.
Speaker 2:That's awesome what $7. That's great $7. Yeah, wow.
Speaker 3:That's awesome.
Speaker 1:I was just. I was so impressed with him that he actually did that. I was like can I buy you dinner?
Speaker 2:I mean, let me just like do something for you, because that can be pricey. But, tucson, he tried to fix ours and he couldn't get it fixed, so you got lucky that he was able to. I did.
Speaker 1:And I take for granted that I'm not going to second guess him anymore. I'm going to say all right, go for it. You know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because what's the loss there? There's no loss. That's what's going on there. So we properly named this Christmas Chaos for a reason. We are entering our December weeks in the beginning of December, and the chaos is just. I think it's just an energy that happens automatically once December 1st happens. You know how? I told you that I quit smoking. Yeah, how's that going? Not good, not good. I'm going to mention it here on the podcast because I still want to hold myself accountable and I want to show you the struggle is real. I feel like my mind can overpower anything, and it can, until I hit Friday. Fridays are tough for me. It's like I have this routine. You know, I go home, I do certain things, and Friday's like my relaxed day and I don't know, yeah, there's something about it. So at like nine o'clock, trevor comes in the room and I'm like first of all, I bought this thing of peanuts and I'm like, I'm like a freaking squirrel, I mean constantly eating these peanuts, especially the cowboy game that happened On Thursday.
Speaker 2:I was just like it's like a nervous thing now. Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, I was eating peanuts Like they were going on a style and I don't even love peanuts and Trevor's like. So you like peanuts now and I'm like I guess, I guess I have to buy a freaking jar of peanuts for every cowboy game. I'm going to get through this. But so he came into the room and I'm just like you know I didn't. I'm looking at the peanut jar Like I cannot have another peanut vomit if I have another freaking peanut.
Speaker 2:You like them shelled, or do you like to take the shell off, or do you eat them either way?
Speaker 1:It was a jar that actually Vonda gave me and had like all different types of peanuts in it, like walnuts and everything mixed together. Oh, so it was like a nut mix. Like a nut mix. Yeah, and those are delicious, they are good. They are good, except I don't really like the brown hard ones. Do you know what?
Speaker 2:I'm talking about. I hate those. I hate those maybe.
Speaker 3:I don't like almonds, I mean I like them, but I don't.
Speaker 1:I don't enjoy them. I like the walnuts though, so I mean, you know, I'm staring at this jar peanuts. I'm like I don't really want to have another peanut. And and Trevor's like well, I need, I want to go get talkies from 7-eleven. What? Is it with boys and doggies. He's.
Speaker 2:The same yeah talkies. That's all I mean once.
Speaker 1:I'm like your stomach's gonna burn out.
Speaker 2:You're gonna have a hole in your freaking stomach.
Speaker 1:You know what I mean. And so he's you know I want to. He's he's gaming. So he's like I want talkies, can you take me to 7-eleven, get talkies? And I'm like If I take you to 7-eleven, I'm getting cigarettes. And he's like oh Well.
Speaker 1:So then I started bargaining with my kid. I started bargaining with my kid and he's like I see what you're doing. I'm like no, I'm just telling you the facts. And he's like I see what you're doing. And he's like this is bad, you shouldn't do this. I'm like well, you can't have talkies then. And he's like okay, okay, okay, I was like okay, so we'll do this. I am not gonna smoke Monday through Thursday at all, ever. Okay, I will take that out of my smoking days. Then that will eliminate those days of the week, and then I'll be down to three days a week and I'm not allowed to buy more than two packs in a week ever. And he's like okay, he's like but you only smoke when you really feel like you need to and not just out of habit. And I'm like Deal.
Speaker 1:So we leave, we go to 7-eleven, I buy two packs of cigarettes, I put him down and I'm like he's like you know you're gonna feel like shit, and he didn't say shit. It's like you know you're gonna feel bad, right, you know you're gonna hate yourself for this. I'm like, probably, but I'm gonna do it anyway. So I go, I have, I go home, I have a cigarette and I'm like I don't hate myself, I don't, I don't hate myself, but I'm now conscious of everything, and every time I do it. So I ended up having two cigarettes, which is really good for where I was, and then today I've had two cigarettes, so that's not bad, and I feel like that's the start of completely quitting, because I don't want to do vaping, because I feel like that's bad for your lungs too, and so, yeah, so here I am, admitting my defeat, but still total defeat.
Speaker 2:You have a lot of.
Speaker 1:I do have a plan, yes, and I know, and I'll beat it because I don't I only do it when I'm when I need to, so I Because you have.
Speaker 2:Obviously you have some willpower, the way you can do it like you don't do it at work, so that in itself shows you have willpower there. So I think you can do it.
Speaker 1:Another thing is I don't really want to smell like smoke coming in. You know I don't like that.
Speaker 2:It smells so bad.
Speaker 2:So you smoker too, so you get it yeah my mom was a smoker, so growing up as she quit, and so my stepdad was a smoker. He passed away from lung cancer. So I mean, like not from it I shouldn't say that because it wasn't from it, he had it right, it was in the mix of everything going on. Okay, so how did your mom do it? She just quit. Honestly, it was crazy cold turkey and she had did it a couple times, like when Freddy got sick. You know they both stopped right when he, when he got sick and he started again and she actually had kept not for a while. So she, she had did it before, where she went, I don't know. She just stopped cold turkey and she did again at some point when she lived with us and after he passed away. And she still hasn't she stopped for good.
Speaker 1:I'm just. I know how hard that is. I mean, your mom has overcome a lot of obstacles in our life. But you know from our other conversations I know that yeah, she's a freaking trooper man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she is, she's she's got a strong she's, in that case she's an absolute nut and she tell you that. But she's a good person, yeah, and she has overcame a lot, so yeah, I. Just think it's impressive, you know.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna look at people differently now that I know they've once smoked. You know I'm gonna be like easy.
Speaker 2:Well too, son to son will stop sometimes, but then he starts again.
Speaker 1:So how long does he stop for how? What's the?
Speaker 2:longest he's gone, Probably years. He's probably gone a year or two and he'll start again for some weird reason. But he'll go months, so he'll go weeks, you know he's cycle years.
Speaker 2:He can, and right now he's doing it again, though he's smoking again. So you and then he'll like, starting in where I don't even notice because he doesn't so seldom, but then it just snowballs until I notice and like, and yesterday I was noticing like, oh my god, even stinks again, because I'm very sensitive to it, because my mom always smoke, you know, so I'm very sensitive to the smell of it. It used to gross me out, like when she rolled the car window up on me you know, like back then.
Speaker 2:Now I think they have laws against that, but back then it was like you know, do they have the windows rolled up, smoking with your kids in the car? Well, I, think they have laws against smoking with kids in the car.
Speaker 1:I know that I stopped doing that years and years ago I did. I was a kid that grew up with two parents that smoked and I was one of those kids in the car and it didn't. I guess it was just my life, so I didn't really notice it. And everybody did it back then. Because I'm okay.
Speaker 1:But I do know that at some point it it something like I can't Can do that, I don't want to do that, and then I stopped and I was able to just cut it off. And then I got a new car and then it was like I wasn't even smoking by myself and. Yeah yeah. So it went. It was in phases. I did not know was a legal, though, so good for me.
Speaker 2:So well, listen, it is um, it's not in every state though. In Texas it's not illegal, but it is in illegal to smoke cigarettes with a child in the car, or Arkansas, for kids you got under age 14, california under age 18, illinois, louisiana oh, illinois is under age 18, louisiana, kids under 13,. Maine kids under 16, oregon, 18, utah 16, vermont, nine. In Virginia, kids under the age of eight. So in California, illinois, oregon, it is illegal to smoke with a kid under 18. So if you're not of legal smoking age in those states, you can't even be in the car with it.
Speaker 1:Wow, okay, I'm not mad about it, though I'm not either. No, no, not at all. You get selfish because you don't realize how it impacts other people until you do, and that's what my changes came from.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I almost feel like it's archaic to do it now, like to me. It feels so old school or like archaic, like you know. Old school, like back in the days when you didn't wear seat belts either. But, like everyone knows, you wear a seat belt now. It's just from the last you know. Well, I also feel like it comes with.
Speaker 1:It comes with a little for me. I can only speak for myself. A little. Shame that I do it. You know, it's like I don't want to be in a public place smoking because I don't want people to look at me. You know where can you even do it?
Speaker 2:in a public place now.
Speaker 1:I don't know, because I don't do it in public, but I, I, I don't. Can you do it in front of a restaurant? I mean probably right in front of a bar. They do it in casinos. They're still allowing that. In Oklahoma there's a whole smoking area and then I think they've now I think they have a side that's non smoking. I think you would lose a lot of gamblers.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, in the casinos you would for sure.
Speaker 1:In bars. I'm surprised they were able to do it in a lot of bars, because they go together Well I was going to say.
Speaker 2:Isn't that where it is? You have to be a bar and sell a certain percent of alcohol for people to be able to smoke. I don't, I don't know. As of July 2018, 29 states enacted statewide bans on smoking in all enclosed workplaces, including all bars and restaurants. Those states are. Texas is not included, of course.
Speaker 1:We're such the lone star you know like we want over here.
Speaker 2:We do. Alaska, arizona, california, colorado, connecticut, delaware I was about to sing the song Hawaii, illinois, iowa, kansas, maine, maryland, massachusetts, Michigan, minnesota, montana, nebraska, new Jersey, new Mexico, new York, north Dakota, Ohio, oregon, rhode Island, south Dakota, utah, vermont, washington, wisconsin. 10 other states have enacted statewide smoking bans but have carved out an exception for certain establishments in workplaces. Those states are Arkansas, florida, idaho, indiana, louisiana, nevada, new Hampshire, north Carolina, pennsylvania, tennessee. That's a lot of states that have smoking bans of some sort.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they realize it's not good for anybody that's around it. And you know I absolutely respect that. That's why I don't smoke in public, because I don't want to contribute to anybody's harm.
Speaker 3:Just myself apparently yeah.
Speaker 1:So I mean, I want you to hold me accountable publicly, okay, and.
Speaker 1:I want to do the check-ins because I'm sure there's somebody out there that is fighting this as well, or they're thinking about it, they're thinking about quitting and they can't, and so maybe they can watch my journey, because I will overcome it, I will beat it. It's just I'm going to have to do it on my own pace. And you know, and I also know, just because, like with your husband, you could say to him quit, I need you to quit, and it's not going to matter because it has to come from the person you know. So you know, if it, if, if I could, you know, I could just say I'm going to quit. If if I can inspire somebody, even with my mistakes, I'll be honest, I will. I hope to. I don't know, it's an interbattle, phoebe. It's chaos, just like this Christmas episode. It's chaos, it's chaos, it's absolute chaos. I mean, I was a little spinning out of control the other day.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't know, some days we're going to both just spin out of control together. Probably we're going to egg each other on some days, because I'm the same, yes.
Speaker 1:And I want to get into your spinning out of control in the next episode, next week's episode. What's spinning out of control? Hold on, I didn't mean that. No, I go back to this conversation we had in your office the other day. I walk in and I'm like, okay, I got to tell you what's happening. Got to tell you what's happening and is it cigarettes or am I having a real moment? And you're like, no, you're having a real moment. And then you said for me oh yeah, is it?
Speaker 2:cigarettes, or for me, I think it might be there you go. Is it a period met, a pause, or my?
Speaker 1:head is, or is this a real moment? So we're both kind of like are these valid? Are we valid for feeling right? You know, yeah, we'll get into yours next. For next week's episode, though, so we'll talk about baby spinning out of control Now it's just really yeah, yours is cigarettes. We know why. We know the root cause of cigarettes.
Speaker 2:It's smoking, but it got me thinking about where can you get it? It's cigarettes, it's smoking, but it got me thinking about where can you smoke marijuana in the States that is legal? Like, can you just go outside and smoke it? Because, like, when I'm in those states and I am I still feel like I'm going to be in trouble and I'm like I don't know the laws and like they really should give you better handouts. So you understand what the laws are about. Smoking marijuana in legalized states, in public places, in public. Yeah, like, did you, did you partake? When you went to Colorado, you had to think about, like, where you could do it at.
Speaker 1:No, I took an edible so I could do it anywhere. Oh shit, Very in secret. See, that's, that's I like it, like that.
Speaker 2:I like it, like that.
Speaker 1:True, and I didn't see anybody just you know right in public smoking a joint in Colorado. You think I would have. I guess I wasn't in the right areas, maybe I don't know.
Speaker 2:Is it? I don't know if people would do it outside In some states it is. What about Colorado? Recreational and medical use is legal in Colorado, okay, so you could do it publicly. You could do it publicly, yep, okay, in Colorado and actually a lot of states I'm not going to name them, like I did with the cigarettes, because then it just turned into like 10 minutes in states, but it is in Colorado, new Mexico, california, nevada, the ones like around us.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I knew.
Speaker 2:California and then it is in a lot of other states. Just medical Medical is legal in Oklahoma. It is legal to smoke in public outdoors, you know, in Oklahoma oh, that's a hot skip, and a jump away. Yeah, I'm sure if the establishment says, you know, like, I'm sure that like a restaurant itself can ban you, but like just I guess standing outside your house or something walking down the street, it's not illegal.
Speaker 1:So you haven't yet smoked in a public place.
Speaker 2:Yes, I have outside. Well, wait, wait, wait. What do we mean by public?
Speaker 1:I was gonna say like outside, like walking down the on the side of the wall.
Speaker 2:Yes, well, yeah, sitting like on a bench or something.
Speaker 1:Okay, so if you've experienced what it's like to have that kind of freedom, yeah, in Colorado I did Okay.
Speaker 2:I haven't experienced that freedom, yeah so it was weird, I will say that. And I still felt like I said, I still felt like I was doing something wrong, though, even though it is legal. And so one of the times when I went, I was staying at a hotel and I just asked the guy at the desk like hey, I'm just gonna be on it, like where do people smoke marijuana? And he was just like oh yeah, you can just go out. And he told me where to go. And it was so bizarre. But he's like yeah, he even walked me around there like here's where you can go, do it. And I'm like okay, thanks.
Speaker 2:So later on that night I went and did it there and it just felt so weird and like the security guard walked up at some point and it made me like oh, security guard, and he said to me Ma'am, if you want to come over there and sit by my truck, you can. You'll probably, you know, feel safe for by me, because it was dark out to her. He was just saying like I could come and sit by his truck and do it like okay, that was. It was very, it was weird, but it still felt like I was doing something wrong. And if people like if someone got out of the car and was walking into the hotel or like walking by me when I was doing it, I kind of like put it down and like try to hide. Just yeah, stigma.
Speaker 1:People have a stigma with going into into any kind of dispensary, any kind of a CBD shop here in Texas. It's like people Are afraid they're gonna be looked at as an addict of some kind or something bad, so they they're scared to go into a dispensary.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like what if? What if I see someone I know, see someone I work with?
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, it was hard for me just actually being public about any of this stuff. You know it was. It really made me nervous, phoebe. It really made me nervous and I had to kind of come to terms with it, with myself saying I don't care you when you can think anything of me, but people that know me know I'm not that and and I'm okay with with that kind of thing.
Speaker 1:But we've talked to people and you know they wouldn't even go to the CBD dispensary, you know, just to get CBD right here. You know hemp derived, and I think that that's that's sad and I and I say that and not in a judgment way, but that you're listening to this and maybe it's you, maybe you Can't go into a CBD dispensary and I'm here to tell you it's okay. It's okay. You know, if you need something that's gonna help you in some way, do it. They just they're not thinking of the medicinal side of that.
Speaker 1:And if you have stress and you have anxiety, don't let yourself being afraid people are gonna judge you stop you from going to get something that can actually help you. So I wanted to definitely Put that out there. Okay, so we're gonna end this episode on smoking chaos and then Next week you're gonna hear our Christmas chaos. But for right now, don't forget to hit the like and subscribe button. Go check us out on simply vibing calm and make sure you listen to next week's episode, because they're gonna be Really really good. All right, talk to you soon.
Speaker 3:Bye, this episode of code green plant was sponsored by simply vibing LLC. Code green plant is a simply vibing production hosted by Kristie Chanel along with her co-host, phoebe James. This podcast is not intended to be used for medical advice and is solely the opinion of the host. Please consult your physician. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to hit that like and subscribe button, and don't forget to subscribe. To hit that like and subscribe button, and don't forget to follow us on social media. Want more? Visit wwwsimplyvibeincom. And a special thank you to the core group of people who helped with the creation of the code green plant podcast. We appreciate you simply vibing with us, code green plant.
